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This textfile was leeched from LSD's Grapevine Magazine Issue #16
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------- O F F I C I A L U F O D O C U M E N T S
Edited/sent by Lee
CUFON Computer UFO Network
NOTE: THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENT WAS OBTAINED THROUGH NORMAL CHANNELS,
INCLUDING THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA). THE DOCUMENT IS NOT A
HOAX. GUY HOTTEL WAS THE SENIOR AGENT IN CHARGE (SAC) OF THE WASHINGTON
FBI OFFICE IN 1950. THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY DOCUMENTS THAT, ALL TOGETHER,
INDICATE A GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY COVER-UP OF UFOs THAT MAKES WATERGATE
LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY.
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Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO: DIRECTOR, FBI
DATE: March 22, 1950
FROM: GUY HOTTEL, SAC, WASHINGTON
SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS
INFORMATION CONCERNING
The following information was furnished to SA [blanked] by
[ blanked ]
[ blanked ]
An investigator for the Air Forces stated that three so-called flying
saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being
circular in shape with raised centres, approximately 50 feet in
diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only
three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each
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body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed
flyers and test pilots.
According to Mr. [blanked] informant, the saucers were found in New
Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered
radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes
with the controlling mechanism of the saucers.
No further evaluation was attempted by SA [blank] concerning the above.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES
23 September 1947
SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"
TO: Commanding General
Army Air Forces
Washington 25, D.C.
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ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen
AC/AS-2
1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered
opinion of this command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs." This
opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and
preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory,
Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference
between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2,
Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and
Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.
2. It is the opinion that:
a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or
fictitious.
b. There are objects probably approximately the shape of a disc, of such
appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft.
c. There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be caused
by natural phenomena, such as meteors.
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d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of
climb, manoeuvrability (particularly in roll), and action which must
be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft
and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects
are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely.
e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows:
(1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.
(2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object
apparently was operating under high performance conditions.
(3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on
top.
(4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from
three to nine objects.
(5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a
substantial rumbling roar was noted.
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[6] Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are estimated.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES
LETTER FROM GENERAL N.F. TWINING TO COMMANDING GENERAL,
ARMY AIR FORCES 23 SEPTEMBER 1947
f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge - provided
extensive detailed development is undertaken - to construct a
piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in
subparagraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate
range of 700 miles at subsonic speeds.
g. Any developments in this country along the lines indicated would be
extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable expense
of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up
independently of existing projects.
h. Due consideration must be given the following:
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(1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin
-the product of some high security project not known to
AC/AS-2 or this command.
(2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash
recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the
existence of these objects.
(3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of
propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our
domestic knowledge.
3. It is recommended that:
a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a
priority, security classification and code name for a detailed
study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of
all available and pertinent data which will then be made available
to the Army , Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force
Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects
for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be
forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter ever
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By 30 days as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data should
be effected.
4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation
within its current resources in order to more closely define the
nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information
will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels.
N.F. TWINING
Lieutenant General, U.S.A.
Commanding.
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
_th Security Police Squadron
APO San Francisco 96239
end.
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O F F I C I A L U F O D O C U M E N T S
Edited/sent by Lee
CUFON Computer UFO Network
NOTE: THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENT WAS OBTAINED THROUGH NORMAL CHANNELS,
INCLUDING THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA). THE DOCUMENT IS NOT A
HOAX. GUY HOTTEL WAS THE SENIOR AGENT IN CHARGE (SAC) OF THE WASHINGTON
FBI OFFICE IN 1950. THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY DOCUMENTS THAT, ALL TOGETHER,
INDICATE A GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY COVER-UP OF UFOs THAT MAKES WATERGATE
LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------->
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Office Memorandum
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO: DIRECTOR, FBI
DATE: March 22, 1950
FROM: GUY HOTTEL, SAC, WASHINGTON
SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS
INFORMATION CONCERNING
The following information was furnished to SA [blanked] by
[ blanked ]
[ blanked ]
An investigator for the Air Forces stated that three so-called flying
saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being
circular in shape with raised centres, approximately 50 feet in
diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only
three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed
flyers and test pilots.
According to Mr. [blanked] informant, the saucers were found in New
Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered
radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes
with the controlling mechanism of the saucers.
No further evaluation was attempted by SA [blank] concerning the above.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES
23 September 1947
SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"
TO: Commanding General
Army Air Forces
Washington 25, D.C.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen
AC/AS-2
1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered
opinion of this command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs." This
opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and
preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory,
Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference
between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2,
Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and
Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.
2. It is the opinion that:
a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or
fictitious.
b. There are objects probably approximately the shape of a disc, of such
appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft.
c. There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be caused
by natural phenomena, such as meteors.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of
climb, manoeuvrability (particularly in roll), and action which must
be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft
and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects
are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely.
e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows:
(1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.
(2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object
apparently was operating under high performance conditions.
(3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on
top.
(4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from
three to nine objects.
(5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a
substantial rumbling roar was noted.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[6] Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are estimated.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES
LETTER FROM GENERAL N.F. TWINING TO COMMANDING GENERAL,
ARMY AIR FORCES 23 SEPTEMBER 1947
f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge - provided
extensive detailed development is undertaken - to construct a
piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in
subparagraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate
range of 700 miles at subsonic speeds.
g. Any developments in this country along the lines indicated would be
extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable expense
of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up
independently of existing projects.
h. Due consideration must be given the following:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin
-the product of some high security project not known to
AC/AS-2 or this command.
(2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash
recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the
existence of these objects.
(3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of
propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our
domestic knowledge.
3. It is recommended that:
a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a
priority, security classification and code name for a detailed
study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of
all available and pertinent data which will then be made available
to the Army , Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force
Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects
for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be
forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
report thereafter ever
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By 30 days as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data should
be effected.
4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation
within its current resources in order to more closely define the
nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information
will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels.
N.F. TWINING
Lieutenant General, U.S.A.
Commanding.
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
_th Security Police Squadron
APO San Francisco 96239
end.
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